car wont start

tim hill · rice boy Joined: 23 Oct 2001 Posts: 44

i just finished ripping everything out of my gemini and replacing it with a borgworner lsd, a 5 speed and a g200. except now it wont start. it turns over and its getting fuel and spark but i think the timing may be way out. anyone have any sugestions?
thanks tim.

CuGem · backyard mechanic Joined: 07 Oct 2001 Posts: 599

Um, if the timing is way out this could help?
http://www.hotgemini.com/cgi-bin/workshop2.cgi?action=rt&tip_id=45

Twisted_torque · tinkerer Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Posts: 240

It definitely sounds like the same problem I had. I don't know much but what I had to do after I put my 2L in was make sure piston 1 (closest to the front of car) was at top dead centre. The big cog that the timing chain turns over to turn the cam has a little locating pin on it, this also has to be at dead top centre. Don't forget to do the valve clearances as well. Sorry I don't know more, but that may help.
Luke

tim hill · rice boy Joined: 23 Oct 2001 Posts: 44

thanks guys.
tim

matey_mate · tinkerer Joined: 23 Oct 2001 Posts: 165

are the high tension leads in the right firing order? it happened to me once took 2 seconds to fix

tim hill · rice boy Joined: 23 Oct 2001 Posts: 44

i dont get it because there are numbers on the dizzy cap 1234 in order but the leads wern't origanally on them when the dizzy was running my 1600. do you know which order the plugs go onto the distributer cap as in 1 on the dizzy is going to number 3 cylinder etc?
thanks
tim

matey_mate · tinkerer Joined: 23 Oct 2001 Posts: 165

firing order is 1-3-4-2. hope this helps

Racegem · backyard mechanic Joined: 30 Jan 2002 Posts: 987

Tim, the dissy spins anti-clockwise. Take No.1 plug out and get someone to turn the motor over by hand with your thumb in the hole. When you feel the compression build up as you near top dead centre, the rotor should be pointing at the lead to No.1. The next one round on the dissy cap, anti-clockwise, is No.3, then 4, then 2.
How far did you pull the motor apart?
When you crank the motor, is there spark from the coil? There should be, irrespective of the firing order.

Hope this helps,
Yonnee.

rob_w · tinkerer Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 395

dunno if i am right, but on the 16oo, the cam/crank timing is as follows.
remove rocker cover
remove bolt holding fanbelt wheen on crank.
when the dowl hole on the cam sprocket is up, the key indentation on the crank should be up.....can be adjusted with a screwdriver and a 17mm ringspanner...youll figure it out....
once this is done, do the ignition timing, valve clearences. crank it up, let 'er rip.
hope this helps.
rob.