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TGfanatic
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 12:21 am    Post subject: gemini power output? Reply with quote

just wanting to know what is the standard power output of the isuzu 1600 in the te,f,g type gemini
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TXcoupe
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 1:11 am    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

well the power output of these motors drop considering the extra gear and the use of small valve heads.. the max out put of these is TE: 56kw and then TF/TG: 49 Kw
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GeminiKing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

All g161 motors produce 67 flywheel hp. The valves make no difference, a G161 doesnt flow enough to take advantage of the early big valves anyway, and also the TF/TG had a higher compression as well.
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Gold TX Sleeper
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

Source: 50 Years of Holden
TX - 1600 (pre ADR27A) 8.7:1, 63KW
TX - 1600 (post ADR27A) 8.7:1, 61KW
TC - Same as TX post ADR27A
TD - Same as TX post ADR27A
TE - 1600 petrol 8.3:1, 50KW
TE - 1600 diesel 21.0:0, 40KW
TF - Same as TE
TG - Same as TE
RB - 1500 leaded 9.6:1, 52KW
RB - 1500 Unleaded 9.0:1 52KW
Cheers,
Jasyn...
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matey_mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

i thought the early models with larger valves had 61 kw and te-tg had 50 kw coz of the emission controls
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GeminiKing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:21 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

Nope. The earlier models had an extractor style exhaust manifold, that gave em maybe at most, 1 or 2 more HP, and thats pretty well not worth talking about
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GeminiKing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:28 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

Im afraid your info is wrong. there is no way there is a 13 kw difference between any of the g161 petrol engines. Cams , capacity, carbs are all the same. As I said, the early models had big valves, and semi extractor style exhaust. LAter models has smaller valves, but higher compression. All comes out nearly the same in the wash. Line up a tx, tc,td,te,tf,tg at the strip, they will all do the 1/4 mile virtually the same.

The G200 has approx 63kw stock, Cheers
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matey_mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:41 pm    Post subject: OFFICAL POWER Reply with quote

power output.... 61 kw @ 5200 rpm
torque output.... 127 Nm @ 3600 rpm
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matey_mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:46 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

u dont know shit man
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GeminiKing
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: OFFICAL POWER Reply with quote

Official? whats your source? Im afraid, its "doesnt know shit". Only a wanker would thing there is a 13 kw difference between a stock TX , and a stock TG g161. C'mon, wheres the other mechanics on this site? Clue in poor old matey mate.
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matey_mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: OFFICAL POWER Reply with quote

got it from my manual... and the te-tg manuals say 50 kwts so there!
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CuGem
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 3:50 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

Mate, its time to admit you're wrong. Jasyn's info is correct.
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matey_mate
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

strange how no ones agreed with him yet but he still insists he is right
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Benjamin
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

Who really gives a flying fuck, eh?

Do it up a little, get it dyno tuned and find out how much power it makes at the rear wheels. Better still, don't worry about power at all, just do it up so it goes hard, then power figures are irrelevant.

If you hose someone off, kudos to you. I have no idea what the output of my Gemini is, nor do I really care, all I want is more. We all know standard Geminis are wheeze bags with potential, standard power means zip.

That's my rant!
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greg j
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2002 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: gemini power output? Reply with quote

dito.
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