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greg j
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 Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 4:59 pm Post subject: gemy donk controversy |
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Re: g200 HP and KW
posted by Danny on Thu Apr 10 22:20:29 2003, ip logged
tx 1600 (pre-adr 27a) 63kw - 84hp
tx, tc, td 1600 (adr 27a) 61kw - 82hp
te, tf, tg 1600 50kw - 67hp
kb rodeo 1800 63kw - 84hp
kb rodeo 2000 65kw - 87hp
same for 2000 out of jackaroo
all from 50 years of holden book
- these wouldnt be bhp/rwhp figures would they?
i heard that most figures published in owners manuals are outputs produced to the flywheel. whats everyone elses opinions?
keep on truckn greg. |
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GROOV3
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:02 pm Post subject: Re: gemy donk controversy |
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a gemini doesnt have 60 kw
more like 60 ish hp for a 1600 sohc |
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TG Turbo
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:36 pm Post subject: Re: gemy donk controversy |
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| they would be sae power figures at the flywheel. sae translates to "say anything exciting" as they dyno'd the engines with open pipes and optimised the ignition curve etc |
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Ben Wight
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:47 pm Post subject: Re: gemy donk controversy |
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| Every figure ever quoted in a factory manual will be power at the flywheel. |
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mystikal21
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| Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 9:17 pm Post subject: Re: gemy donk controversy |
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| look you need that power 60kw any less it will be slow as a turtle |
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Racegem
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 2:20 pm Post subject: Re: gemy donk controversy |
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And you'll find it's the emission controls, air pump, etc., that drop the power figure in the later models.
You'll also see that the bigger capacity motor aren't that much more powerful, but if you find the torque figures, they'll be a fair bit more. |
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greg j
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:19 pm Post subject: Re: thanks |
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thanks for helping clear that up lads. i was wondering mainly cos i had no idea of what output to expect when i dynoed mine. and was disappointed when my two litre mill produced 80hp at the rears. but i guess thats not too bad for a mild setup still running standard nikki carbi.
cheers. keep on truckn greg. |
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Ben Wight
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| Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: thanks |
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80hp @ the wheels is actully pretty good, unless you are going with a pretty wild setup or forced induction, you cant expect much more than that from a NA 2 litre G200.
Ben |
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