Painty paint paint...

Mr bayce · tinkerer Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 328

hey i need to paint my gem, im thinking 2pac black but im doing it myself cos i dont want to be paying $3000!!!!!!! and was just wondering if 2pack will work over single pack primer/putty and if anyone has any other info on painting? thanx pplz

Gemini Driving Yobbo · petrol head Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Posts: 3897

do u have an big oven??????

Gene FJ20DET · Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2002 11:03 pm Post subject: Re: Painty paint paint...

if u are doin it yaself, use acrilic! less chance of fucking up , and if u dont have a booth it will end up shit anyways. use acrilic
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Michelle · tinkerer Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 349

im pretty sure your not alowed to paint 2 pac without a booth anyway??? isnt it illegal or something? bad fumes maybe...

shell

Mr bayce · tinkerer Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 328

yeah but ive been told that acryllic is shithouse! and only lasts 2 years max. and no i dont have an oven but i got a booth (at work) ...so you need colour coat and clear coat for acryllic then hey?

p.s. my car is in the last cruise pics (bottom silver with bad paint)

Gemini Driving Yobbo · petrol head Joined: 26 Feb 2002 Posts: 3897

thats y if u have an oven u can and bake a cake or something for a couple of hours while the fumes fly away

Soop · backyard mechanic Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 748

2pac has (and still does I think) isocynates in it. Its a type of chemical that once gets into your system can cause you to be very sensitive to it and eventually other vapours. Basically it fucks you up!

I'm not sure if isocynates are still contained in it though.

Soop · backyard mechanic Joined: 30 May 2002 Posts: 748

Acrylic lacquer turns out pretty good. Its just there is no instant gloss off the gun like 2pac.

If ou prep well and sand properly between coats acrylic will look shmick.

I sprayed my front wing with acrylic CANS ! hahaha I rubbed it smooth as hell and finished with a cut and polish and its bloody awesome looking for a can job.

Acrylic, you dont need a clear coat but clear will protect your paint. As long as you put effort into your prep acyrlic should come out decent.

Birko · tinkerer Joined: 03 Apr 2002 Posts: 180

Definatley go for acrylic!

Two part polyurethane paints (2pac's) are illegal to be use be any one without a lisenece/booth with specified ventilation. Whole body /face protection needs to be worn when using these. The chemical in them is toluene diisocyanate and can cause asthma and chemical sensitivity.

Anyways use acrylic as it is much easier to use and will give good results. if you are concerned that the paint will not last, get a proper spraypainter to paint it! (in 2pac even). A backyard job, when done correctly can be as good as any pano shop if time is taken, howver i doubt if you you use 2pac, and in black you will have a good looking car.

Maybe you should consider a lighter colour as unless you have lots of experience in panel beeating it will look shit.
Maybe a blue, red (marenelo red??)or green non mettalic colour will be good for a diy job, with these you dont have to have clear coat (ie cheaper)

goons hired goons · petrol head Joined: 04 Jul 2002 Posts: 3268

gday mate-i resprayed my gem recently and used acrylic cos its piss easy to use plus it buffs up pretty tidy too! unless you have a baking oven at your disposal,id suggest you take the acrylic route.cheers it up,86SL/E.

nos · tinkerer Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 274

hey man i'm looking to paint my car too. i was thinking a metallic purple acrylic. what do you think i'll be able to make that come out like. i will use a clear coat. if you could give me some directions on how to make it come up real schmick i'd be really appreciative. cheers

TG 1985 · backyard mechanic Joined: 08 Jan 2002 Posts: 550

i got me a bakyard job, looked shit at first, but when the cut and polish was finsihed, looked sik as. but acrylic is real easy to scratch, with 2pac, u can stick ure nail in2 it as hard as u like, and notin will happen, where as with acrylic, u run ure hand along it and u'll prolly scratch it.

i done all prep work myself, and a friend of my dad's cam ova to give it a spray and cut and polish. plus my conditions were shit aswell, windy, and only 18*C.

chris.

maDGeMvAN · tinkerer Joined: 06 Oct 2001 Posts: 452

Go for 2-pac, but take care with your preparation when using a dark colour. Black will show up faults much easier than if you used a lighter colour. So make sure it is straight!

Acrylic won't look as good as 2-pac either.

Mr bayce · tinkerer Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 328

so you would recommend a clear coat then? to protect it?

alan · tinkerer Joined: 07 Apr 2002 Posts: 429

I love these painting/panel beating questions. People dont know what they are talking about. Soop and Bisirko are the only ones here who know their stuff, follow their advice.