| View previous topic :: View next topic   | 
	
	
	
		| Author | 
		Message | 
	
	
		Josh backyard mechanic
 
  Joined: 04 Oct 2001 Posts: 602
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2003 11:16 pm    Post subject: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				Who is doing this and does the pump last long? I hooked it up to 12v's today because the weber wasnt getting enough fuel. It fixed the problem but I want to know if it is gonna last or should I get a holley blue or something?
 
 
Cheers
 
 
Josh | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Winterheart tinkerer
 
  Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 144
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				My TD has been running direct off a fused and switched line to the battery for the last 20 or so months and it's still going strong, however, make sure of a few things:
 
- make sure you've fused the power wire running to the pump
 
- make sure you've got it switched
 
- make sure you don't leave the fuel pump running, as it can will and does flatten a 350CCA battery in less than 5hrs.
 
Cheers   | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		S N 3 A K Y tinkerer
 
  Joined: 18 Jul 2003 Posts: 153
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:20 am    Post subject: Re: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v (Fuse) | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				| What is the amp rating of the fuse you are using ? | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Winterheart tinkerer
 
  Joined: 04 Dec 2002 Posts: 144
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v (Fuse) | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				Off the top of my head I think it's a 10amp fuse, tho it may be a 7.5amp fuse - haven't had to replace it in the last year or so.  Cheers   | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		rod tinkerer
 
  Joined: 14 Apr 2003 Posts: 380
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v (Fuse) | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				ive measured the current flowing in the fuel pump circuit with my multimeter and i was getting around 1.5amps
 
so any amp fuse above this reading will be fine 
 
im using a 3 amp fuse | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Ben Wight backyard mechanic
 
  Joined: 04 Oct 2001 Posts: 946
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				A simple way to swith the pump is to make the wire that originally feeds the power to the pump trigger a relay, which feeds 12v.  That way, the pump is only on whilst cranking, or whilst the alternator is spinning, same as the standard setup.
 
 
Ben | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Josh backyard mechanic
 
  Joined: 04 Oct 2001 Posts: 602
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2003 11:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Running stock fuel pump @ 12v | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				| Except in my case inb which the car is a TG so I had to fit the electric fuel pump into the tank out of my TE... I still have all that wiring for the fuel pump that is under the dash but i didnt bother about hooking it up. I just ran a wire from the ballest resister | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Benjamin backyard mechanic
 
  Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Posts: 525
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:53 pm    Post subject: Electric vs Mechanical | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				| Should I convert my mechanical TF to an Electric setup? Will I achieve greater fuel flow, and in the process gain a small amount of power from not pedalling a stupid pump? | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		MR_GEMI hod rodder
 
  Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Posts: 7826 Location: Adelaide
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Electric vs Mechanical | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				i had the elec pump in my old gem, didnt notice any difference in power, wouldnt really bother to be honest _________________
   | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		Ben Wight backyard mechanic
 
  Joined: 04 Oct 2001 Posts: 946
 
  | 
		
			
				 Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2003 11:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Electric vs Mechanical | 
				     | 
			 
			
				
  | 
			 
			
				You would gain more power from using electric pump over mechanical, but it wouldn't be enough to notice, probably wouldn't even register on a sensitive dyno.  I would think the fan would be a better thing to get rid of if you are going to trouble.  But it all adds up.
 
 
I dont know what each pump flows, but each would be sufficient for use in a good fuel system.
 
 
Ben | 
			 
		  | 
	
	
		| Back to top | 
		 | 
	
	
		  | 
	
	
		 |